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Beyond the Couch Ep 32: How to Identify & Challenge Perfectionism with Dr. Michelle Chung

This week, Sam is back with Dr. Michelle Chung to talk about how to identify the two different types of perfectionistic behaviors and begin to challenge them. They chat about how each category of perfectionism can manifest at work, in relationships, and in our inner monologues, getting in the way of healthy ways to approach life. Though it may be challenging, they discuss ways to practice adopting a growth mindset and self-compassion to celebrate the small wins and minimize turning to maladaptive perfectionism to realize success.

A clinical psychologist based in New York City, Dr. Chung specializes in the treatment of anxiety, mood, ADHD and executive functioning disorders. Using Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT), Dialectical Behavioral Therapy (DBT) and Biofeedback models, Dr. Chung works with youth, families and adults in her boutique private practice with 5 other associates. She is also on the faculty of the Mt. Sinai Medical Center and runs In Practice with Dr. Michelle Chung (@dr.michellechung), an Instagram online platform of courses and workshops about mental health and emotional well-being. Connect with Dr. Chung at and at

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