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Beyond the Couch Ep 31: Perfectionism Pt 1: The Cultural Roots of Perfectionism with Dr. Michelle Chung

This week, Sam chats with Dr. Michelle Chung about how Confucianist roots, collectivist values, and the idea of filial piety prime perfectionist thinking in many Asian cultures. They discuss the paralysis that might come with perfectionism, as well as guilt and shame when perfectionist goals are not met. As Asian-Americans themselves, they also dive into the idea that hard work will lead to success and how it contributes to the Model Minority Myth and the immigrant experience. Stay tuned for Part 2 next week, where they will discuss how to recognize perfectionism and tips on how to challenge perfectionist beliefs!

A clinical psychologist based in New York City, Dr. Chung specializes in the treatment of anxiety, mood, ADHD and executive functioning disorders. Using Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT), Dialectical Behavioral Therapy (DBT) and Biofeedback models, Dr. Chung works with youth, families and adults in her boutique private practice with 5 other associates. She is also on the faculty of the Mt. Sinai Medical Center and runs In Practice with Dr. Michelle Chung (@dr.michellechung), an Instagram online platform of courses and workshops about mental health and emotional well-being. Connect with Dr. Chung at and at